# 6-ft Tall and drowning in River of 5-ft average Depth. How?

How can a 6-feet tall person drown in a river of average depth 5-feet?

Ofcourse he can.

Obviously, the first condition is that he doesn’t know how to swim. Second condition is that there is no one around to save him.

But more important is the fact that a river of average depth 5-feet is not deep uniformly. It can be 2-ft deep at one location and 7-ft at another. It can be 4-ft at one place and 12 or more feet at others.

But ofcourse, the average will be 5-ft. So if you are 6-ft tall, you can still drown in a river of average depth 5-ft. 😉

Howard Marks is a billionaire and one of the wisest value investors out there. He once said:

“Never forget the 6-foot-tall man who drowned crossing the stream that was 5 feet deep on average.”

He continued:

“The important thing to remember about investing is that it is not sufficient to set up a portfolio that will survive on average. The key is to survive at the low ends.”

If you are comfortable with basic maths, you would know that averages don’t show the complete picture.

The river-example clearly shows that basing your decision on information that average depth is 5 feet (which is indeed correct) – can kill you if you don’t know how to swim and are in a part of the river that is deeper than 6 feet.

All this doesn’t mean that averages are wrong. It only means that you need more information to base your decisions on.

Lets take investments as an example:

We are generally telling each other that stock markets can give 12-15% average returns in long term.

But many people don’t take the advice in right spirit. They forget that an average of 15% does not mean:

Year 1: 15% Returns

Year 2: 15% Returns

Year 3: 15% Returns

Year 4: 15% Returns

Year 5: 15% Returns

Year 10: 15% Returns

This never happens. Stock markets are not bank FDs with fixed returns. 😉

15% average returns might in reality be made up of following sequence of returns:

29%, 9%, 17%, -19%, -4%, 57%, 5%, 20%, 15%, 39% – (lets call it Reality 1)

Or there can be another sequence that also gives 15% average returns.

-2%, 38%, -17%, 46%, -10%, 20%, 38%, -5%, 35%, 29% (lets call it Reality 2)

Now here is a graph that shows you what’s happening – assuming that Rs 1 lac was invested initially and investment was held for 10 years:

Assumed return of 15% and returns of Reality 1 and 2 – all end up with same final value, i.e. 15% annual average returns.

But the paths taken are not smooth in reality (1 & 2). The sequence of returns can be different as show in graph below:

One look at the above graph tells that reality of stock markets is uncomfortable. And there is no denying it. Stock markets don’t move in straight lines. But as investors, we need to start getting comfortable with the uncomfortable, if we want to make money in the long run.

If you are unable to accept such volatility, then you should not be in stocks. Though it is this volatility that is the best thing about stock markets.

Now lets see how people screw up when things don’t go as expected.

Suppose an investor decides to invest Rs 1 lac for few years. He has heard that markets can give 12-15% ‘easily’ and hence, makes the investment.

Now he knows the average is about 12-15%. For calculations, lets keep it at 15%. Now using 15% average returns, he believes he will get about Rs 2 lac after 5 years (left table below). But markets, inspite of doing very well in first 3 years, do poorly in next 2 years. Result is that he ends up with returns of just about 5% (right table below):

This investor, obviously unsatisfied with results, might decide to call it quits with the market. But that will be a mistake.

But had he stayed on for longer (and that’s assuming he was invested in good stocks / funds), its possible that markets ‘would’ have done better and he would have attained his expected average returns (see table on left below):

Ofcourse I have intentionally used a sequence of returns that justify what I am saying.

But that is how it is.

Reality is volatile and you need to accept it. It is uncomfortable. But no one said successful investing was easy. Its simple no doubt. But sorry, its not easy.

You should be prepared to accept ‘reality’ (i.e. actual returns) that are not in line with your expectations (i.e. expected returns). More so if you are not investing for long term.

Ideally 5 year is the bare minimum that you should be prepared to stay invested in equities if you want to make decent money. But even then, its not a guarantee.

Just because markets did well in last couple of years, does not mean that this trend will continue forever. Infact, statistically speaking and using the concept of mean reversion, chances of having a bad year after few good ones is quite high.

So use common sense and understand the basic nature of market. Markets are like trains. You don’t want to come in way of a train. Rather, you should try to ride it to your destination. 🙂

1. kundavar says:

your articles are of a great value Mr.Dev! and really appreciate your help in making us aware of the reality situations. God Bless!!!

1. Dev Ashish says:

Thanks Kundavar 🙂

2. Sunil says:

Good one Dev, It is very useful for investors looking for long term investment in equities. I am sharing this article with my friends.

Thanks again for sharing the knowledge !!!

1. Dev Ashish says:

Thanks Sunil. Glad you found it useful. 🙂

3. AK says:

Great article. Thanks!

On a lighter note, was the pun intended when you wrote ‘ 5 year is the bear minimum’? 🙂

1. Dev Ashish says:

Thanks AK. And that was a spelling mistake. Corrected it. But glad it wasn’t a ‘beer’ 😉

4. Dharmesh says:

Very good article. It helps us to base our expectations on hard reality.

1. Dev Ashish says:

Thanks Dharmesh 🙂

5. Amit says:

If one accepts the reality as explained in this article, then he will work with it. In a way that, he will buy more, when nifty is down… And book profit when it’s up. This simple money management technique would increase returns significantly.

1. Dev Ashish says:

Atleast conceptually speaking… yes 🙂

6. Rohit says:

I have seen a steep fall in value of articles written by Dev and Safal Niveshak guy. Since both of them have taken advisory as full time career….the intention is to write any easily available (in google) concept and be near the eyes of the readers…suggestion is to include case studies of recent profits made in stock market, interviews with people who have made millions in mutual funds (there used to be some case studies…)……

1. Dev Ashish says:

Sorry to hear that Rohit…

I do a lot of research from time to time – that maybe referred to as as case studies. But I publish only those ones which I feel would interest most readers. Will try to publish more such studies in future.

1. Rohit says:

Thanks Dev….request to take the review positively….just a request to satiate the needs of people who have crossed the initial barriers of equity investments…..need to know the complications of the process……like when sensex is high…is it worth investing in SIPs? or look for stocks at low P/E now? Any case studies of people who have made money by investing in high sensex values over 10 years? How does debt mutual funds work? Would investing Rs 2 lakhs/ vs Rs 20 Lalkhs lumpsum be a good idea in a debt fund? Does entry price matter in a debt fund or generally ppl recieve 9%+ in a year? In the heat map shared, what should be looked at P/E or P/B? Sometimes P/E is high but P/B appears low compared to other months- considering Nifty ratios, which is the right figure to look at to make an opinion? I can search the above in google…but would be great to get views from experts like you..

2. Dev Ashish says:

Hi Rohit

I have made note of your requests. And will try to cover some of the questions that you have shared. Thanks 🙂

7. Priyank Bhardwaj says:

a point driven so well. This point of volatility and the mistake of the investor is spoken of so many times but none have brought it out so well. Thank you.

8. Deeps says:

Buy and hedge suits more to my personality.There is a book with this title.